Re: L'ing. Keshe sta facendo il possibile...
Inviato da vuotorosso il 20/5/2013 18:29:45
Riporto dal post in home di fiodenamig l'aggiornamento su E-cat per rappresentare quelle che per me sono le differenze tra Rossi e Keshe, in risposta ulteriore alle curiosità in merito espresse a suo tempo da Peonia sul perché si definisca il reattore di Keshe una truffa mentre l'E-cat viene accolto diversamente.
A differenza dei vari reattori/scatola di Keshe qui abbiamo una prova dei fatti e una verifica degli stessi conto terzi.
Un conto e' non sapere quale teoria stia dietro un fatto, un altro dire che la teoria funziona, e' dimostrata, e non dimostrarlo mai.
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Off-topic - Massimo, siccome avevo visto che un po' di tempo fa avevi scritto un articolo sull'E-Cat, ti segnalo che su ArXiv è stato pubblicato il primo report indipendente sul suo funzionamento:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913
http://matslew.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/report-e-cat-ht-may-20131.pdf
Gli autori sono:
• Giuseppe Levi - Bologna University, Bologna, Italy
• Evelyn Foschi - Bologna, Italy
• Torbjörn Hartman, Bo Höistad, Roland Pettersson and Lars Tegnér - Uppsala University, Uppsala, Sweden
• Hanno Essén - Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Un paio di foto scattate durante i test, e di seguito l'abstract con le conclusioni:
ABSTRACT
An experimental investigation of possible anomalous heat production in a special type of reactor tube named E-Cat HT is carried out. The reactor tube is charged with a small amount of hydrogen loaded nickel powder plus some additives. The reaction is primarily initiated by heat from resistor coils inside the reactor tube. Measurement of the produced heat was performed with high-resolution thermal imaging cameras, recording data every second from the hot reactor tube.
The measurements of electrical power input were performed with a large bandwidth three-phase power analyzer. Data were collected in two experimental runs lasting 96 and 116 hours, respectively. An anomalous heat production was indicated in both experiments. The 116-hour experiment also included a calibration of the experimental set-up without the active charge present in the E-Cat HT. In this case, no extra heat was generated beyond the expected heat from the electric input. Computed volumetric and gravimetric energy densities were found to be far above those of any known chemical source. Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the measurements, the result is still one order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources.
Conclusions
The two test measurements described in this text were conducted with the same methodology on two different devices: a first prototype, termed E-Cat HT, and a second one, resulting from technological improvements on the first, termed E-Cat HT2. Both have indicated heat production from an unknown reaction primed by heat from resistor coils. The results obtained indicate that energy was produced in decidedly higher quantities than what may be gained from any conventional source. In the March test, about 62 net kWh were produced, with a consumption of about 33 kWh, a power density of about 5.3 · 105, and a density of thermal energy of about 6.1 · 107 Wh/kg. In the December test, about 160 net kWh were produced, with a consumption of 35 kWh, a power density of about 7 · 103 W/kg and a thermal energy density of about 6.8 · 105 Wh/kg. The difference in results between the two tests may be seen in the overestimation of the weight of the charge in the first test (which was comprehensive of the weight of the two metal caps sealing the cylinder), and in the manufacturer’s choice of keeping temperatures under control in the second experiment to enhance the stability of the operating cycle. In any event, the results obtained place both devices several orders of magnitude outside the bounds of the Ragone plot region for chemical sources.
Even from the standpoint of a “blind” evaluation of volumetric energy density, if we consider the whole volume of the reactor core and the most conservative figures on energy production, we still get a value of (7.93 ± 0.8) 102 MJ/Liter that is one order of magnitude higher than any conventional source.
Lastly, it must be remarked that both tests were terminated by a deliberate shutdown of the reactor, not by fuel exhaustion; thus, the energy densities that were measured should be considered as lower limits of real values.
The March test is to be considered an improvement over the one performed in December, in that various problems encountered in the first experiment were addressed and solved in the second one. In the next test experiment which is expected to start in the summer of 2013, and will last about six months, a long term performance of the E-Cat HT2 will be tested. This test will be crucial for further attempts to unveil the origin of the heat phenomenon observed so far.
A differenza dei vari reattori/scatola di Keshe qui abbiamo una prova dei fatti e una verifica degli stessi conto terzi.
Un conto e' non sapere quale teoria stia dietro un fatto, un altro dire che la teoria funziona, e' dimostrata, e non dimostrarlo mai.
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Off-topic - Massimo, siccome avevo visto che un po' di tempo fa avevi scritto un articolo sull'E-Cat, ti segnalo che su ArXiv è stato pubblicato il primo report indipendente sul suo funzionamento:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913
http://matslew.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/report-e-cat-ht-may-20131.pdf
Gli autori sono:
• Giuseppe Levi - Bologna University, Bologna, Italy
• Evelyn Foschi - Bologna, Italy
• Torbjörn Hartman, Bo Höistad, Roland Pettersson and Lars Tegnér - Uppsala University, Uppsala, Sweden
• Hanno Essén - Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Un paio di foto scattate durante i test, e di seguito l'abstract con le conclusioni:
ABSTRACT
An experimental investigation of possible anomalous heat production in a special type of reactor tube named E-Cat HT is carried out. The reactor tube is charged with a small amount of hydrogen loaded nickel powder plus some additives. The reaction is primarily initiated by heat from resistor coils inside the reactor tube. Measurement of the produced heat was performed with high-resolution thermal imaging cameras, recording data every second from the hot reactor tube.
The measurements of electrical power input were performed with a large bandwidth three-phase power analyzer. Data were collected in two experimental runs lasting 96 and 116 hours, respectively. An anomalous heat production was indicated in both experiments. The 116-hour experiment also included a calibration of the experimental set-up without the active charge present in the E-Cat HT. In this case, no extra heat was generated beyond the expected heat from the electric input. Computed volumetric and gravimetric energy densities were found to be far above those of any known chemical source. Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the measurements, the result is still one order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources.
Conclusions
The two test measurements described in this text were conducted with the same methodology on two different devices: a first prototype, termed E-Cat HT, and a second one, resulting from technological improvements on the first, termed E-Cat HT2. Both have indicated heat production from an unknown reaction primed by heat from resistor coils. The results obtained indicate that energy was produced in decidedly higher quantities than what may be gained from any conventional source. In the March test, about 62 net kWh were produced, with a consumption of about 33 kWh, a power density of about 5.3 · 105, and a density of thermal energy of about 6.1 · 107 Wh/kg. In the December test, about 160 net kWh were produced, with a consumption of 35 kWh, a power density of about 7 · 103 W/kg and a thermal energy density of about 6.8 · 105 Wh/kg. The difference in results between the two tests may be seen in the overestimation of the weight of the charge in the first test (which was comprehensive of the weight of the two metal caps sealing the cylinder), and in the manufacturer’s choice of keeping temperatures under control in the second experiment to enhance the stability of the operating cycle. In any event, the results obtained place both devices several orders of magnitude outside the bounds of the Ragone plot region for chemical sources.
Even from the standpoint of a “blind” evaluation of volumetric energy density, if we consider the whole volume of the reactor core and the most conservative figures on energy production, we still get a value of (7.93 ± 0.8) 102 MJ/Liter that is one order of magnitude higher than any conventional source.
Lastly, it must be remarked that both tests were terminated by a deliberate shutdown of the reactor, not by fuel exhaustion; thus, the energy densities that were measured should be considered as lower limits of real values.
The March test is to be considered an improvement over the one performed in December, in that various problems encountered in the first experiment were addressed and solved in the second one. In the next test experiment which is expected to start in the summer of 2013, and will last about six months, a long term performance of the E-Cat HT2 will be tested. This test will be crucial for further attempts to unveil the origin of the heat phenomenon observed so far.
Messaggio orinale: https://old.luogocomune.net/site/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=54&topic_id=7208&post_id=235363