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Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?)
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Per il cd e i film, invece, ci sono le tecniche per riprodurli identici all'infinito e a costo zero.

Ok, parliamo della musica.
Oggi ci sono i masterizzatori, i cd, le stampanti, i modem, la rete.
Non si puo' piu' pretendere di che la distribuzione sia uguale a quella del tempo dei vinile.
Il musicista dovrebbe adattarsi al cambiamento e cercare la remunerazione in altre direzioni. Non sono gli utenti del p2p ad aver affondato il business (che comunque, e' tutt'ora ancora in piedi, checche' se ne dica...) ma sono le nuove tecnologie che hanno cambiato il modo di distribuire la musica.

Il produrre i cd e distribuirli e' destinato a diventare "Vendere una confezione".
Il software si e' adattato alla situazione P2P: vende i manuali e rilascia il sw free.

Il musicista o la band dovrebbero (ed e' una mia opinione...!) puntare sulla visibilita' (ascoltabilita' ) dei loro lavori e poi vendere quella in qualche maniera, perche' bloccare il cambiamento dei mezzi di comunicazione-distribuzione della musica non e' una soluzione praticabile, tanto quanto il controllarlo (vedi tema del 3d: una azienda sta provando ad incassare dai "ladri" del p2p in rete... ma col cazzo che ci riesce...).
I modi per "incassare" ci sono e son tanti ma arrivano con la diffusa circolazione dei propri lavori, proprio come quando, in passato, ci si faceva ascoltare in giro in attesa di un produttore interessato (cosa che non e' cambiata, tra l'altro e che tutt'ora e' utile, sia per un guadagno diretto dalle serate in locali e palchi, se il fine e' mantenersi con la musica, sia in termini di conoscenza/fare conoscenze...).

Inoltre, proprio per quanto riguarda il produttore, ormai si puo' definitivamente emulare questo tipo di figura professionale, e' obsoleta, e si puo' prendersene carico personalmente e con poche risorse, al contrario del mondo musicale del passato. Anche la distribuzione e' scavalcabile, ormai, con la rete.

Il cd e' un prodotto che non ha piu' senso di esistere. Secondo me e' questa la verita'... e' diventato virtuale...: da vinile a musicassetta, da musicassetta a cd, da cd a Mp3, la componente fisica dei supporti e' stata assorbita' dai bytes. Smaterializzata. Vendere il supporto fisico e' lecito, e' un diritto del musicista, ed ha ancora un suo fascino: peccato che e' anacronistico ed e' per questo, un pessimo affare che non consiglierei a nessuno di intraprendere.

Pretendere di mantenerlo in vita, nonostante tutto, e' assurdo quanto chiedere alla gente di ritornare all'olio di balena nelle lampade.

E per carita', smettiamola di dire che e' solo una scusa... sminuisce il livello della discussione e chi lo usa come argomento...

mc
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                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 18/6/2007 10:12
                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 18/6/2007 19:11
                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 18/6/2007 19:46
                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Dorian 18/6/2007 20:07
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Dorian 18/6/2007 20:11
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 18/6/2007 20:14
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Dorian 18/6/2007 22:29
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Maggiolino 19/6/2007 1:27
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 19/6/2007 10:05
                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 18/6/2007 9:34
                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 18/6/2007 10:03
                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 19/6/2007 13:38
                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 19/6/2007 15:05
                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 19/6/2007 15:46
                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 19/6/2007 17:12
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 19/6/2007 17:31
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 20/6/2007 16:46
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 19/6/2007 17:36
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 19/6/2007 21:51
                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 20/6/2007 2:10
                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 20/6/2007 10:49
                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 20/6/2007 12:28
                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 20/6/2007 13:33
                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 20/6/2007 14:30
                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) hi-speed 20/6/2007 15:45
                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 20/6/2007 16:42
                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 20/6/2007 13:56
                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 20/6/2007 17:27
                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 20/6/2007 18:52
                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 20/6/2007 20:03
                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 10:22
                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 21/6/2007 10:38
                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 12:10
                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 13:25
                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 21/6/2007 13:34
                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 14:14
                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 21/6/2007 15:42
                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 16:29
                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 21/6/2007 18:07
                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 21/6/2007 13:21
                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 14:02
                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 14:27
                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 14:55
                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 15:14
                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 15:50
                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 16:02
                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 16:32
                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 18:08
                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 18:43
                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 21/6/2007 18:58
                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 19:17
                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 21/6/2007 20:35
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 21:49
                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 21/6/2007 22:34
                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 23:35
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 22/6/2007 8:02
                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 22/6/2007 9:30
                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 22/6/2007 21:27
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Linucs 22/6/2007 21:37
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 22/6/2007 21:59
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 22/6/2007 22:31
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Linucs 22/6/2007 23:42
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 22/6/2007 23:53
                                                                                                                                                                                   P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA". mc 25/6/2007 10:47
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA". mc 25/6/2007 10:52
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA Dorian 25/6/2007 11:31
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA mc 25/6/2007 12:01
                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA Dorian 25/6/2007 13:52
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA mc 25/6/2007 14:26
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA Iceman 25/6/2007 15:09
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA Fabrizio70 25/6/2007 20:53
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 22/6/2007 23:43
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 26/6/2007 11:28
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 26/6/2007 12:48
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 26/6/2007 13:28
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 26/6/2007 14:11
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 26/6/2007 16:03
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) vincenzo 27/6/2007 12:46
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 27/6/2007 13:11
                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 28/6/2007 12:02
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 28/6/2007 13:32
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 28/6/2007 16:00
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 28/6/2007 16:19
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 28/6/2007 16:23
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 28/6/2007 16:32
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 28/6/2007 18:21
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 28/6/2007 16:43
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 29/6/2007 16:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 29/6/2007 18:05
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 4/7/2007 14:26
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 4/7/2007 14:38
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 28/6/2007 15:03
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 29/6/2007 17:14
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 29/6/2007 18:07
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Maggiolino 30/6/2007 3:20
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 4/7/2007 14:35
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 4/7/2007 15:13
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 4/7/2007 17:24
                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 4/7/2007 17:58
                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 4/7/2007 23:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Tato_p2p 11/7/2007 21:03
                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Tato_p2p 11/7/2007 21:16
                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 11/7/2007 21:30
                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 12/7/2007 9:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) hi-speed 12/7/2007 10:15
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Tato_p2p 12/7/2007 12:05
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 12/7/2007 12:47
                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Maggiolino 12/7/2007 20:22
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 13/7/2007 16:11
                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 13/7/2007 18:25
                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 13/7/2007 18:53
                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 18/7/2007 18:27
                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Marco M 18/7/2007 23:41
                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 13/7/2007 15:33
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Maggiolino 5/7/2007 3:43
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 1/7/2007 0:18
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 5/7/2007 19:05
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 6/7/2007 14:58
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 6/7/2007 22:08
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 11/7/2007 10:10
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 26/6/2007 14:38
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 28/6/2007 11:56
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Marco M 27/7/2007 18:55
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) alinos 13/9/2007 16:03
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) nessuno 13/9/2007 16:46
                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 21/6/2007 17:08
                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 17:35
                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 22/6/2007 10:19
                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 22/6/2007 12:55
                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 22/6/2007 13:51
                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 22/6/2007 14:13
                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 22/6/2007 15:06
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 22/6/2007 15:50
                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 21/6/2007 15:23
                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 20/6/2007 10:17
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 20/6/2007 16:53
                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 20/6/2007 17:04
                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 20/6/2007 16:42
                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 20/6/2007 17:59
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 20/6/2007 18:17
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 22/6/2007 13:51
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 22/6/2007 15:24
                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 14/6/2007 15:33
                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Maggiolino 1/6/2007 19:04
                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 4/6/2007 17:05
                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 8/6/2007 16:14
                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 31/5/2007 12:01
                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) hi-speed 31/5/2007 13:35
                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Anglagard 1/6/2007 9:08
                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 1/6/2007 9:38
                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 1/6/2007 9:29
                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 1/6/2007 10:39
                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 1/6/2007 12:20
                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 1/6/2007 12:30
                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 1/6/2007 13:03
                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 1/6/2007 14:35
                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) maxgallo 1/6/2007 15:06
                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 8/6/2007 16:01
     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) orkid 1/6/2007 18:04
       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 1/6/2007 18:36
     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) orkid 13/6/2007 18:54
     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) orkid 15/6/2007 17:24
       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 19/6/2007 13:19
     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Tubo 1/7/2007 4:57
       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Linucs 1/7/2007 16:39
         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 2/7/2007 15:46
         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 4/7/2007 14:36
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