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Re: The last word on the 911 Pentagon matter
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Citazione:
Perché questa disparità negli orari di evacuazione? Rivedendo le immagini di quel giorno si può notare come l'evacuazione della Casa Bianca sia avvenuta in due tempi; dapprima era stata evacuata solo l'ala ovest, il “West Wing” dove si trovava Cheney, mentre poi, dopo lo schianto al Pentagono, il provvedimento venne esteso a tutto l'edificio ed agli altri complessi governativi.


Esatto. E quando Mineta arriva, è dagli altri uffici che la gente sta uscendo.

dice Mineta:

... and as we went in West Executive Drive (la strada fra la West Wing e l'Old Executive Office Building N.d.T.), people pouring out from the... the... Executive Office Building, people running out of the Whit House, and I said to my driver and security guy: "is there something wrong with this picture? we're driving in and everybody else is... running away"[e mentre arrivavamo nella West Executive Drive, la gente si riversava fuori dall'Executive Office Building, correva fuori dalla Casa Bianca, e ho detto al mio autista e addetto alla sicurezza: "non c'è qualcosa di sbagliato in questo? Noi stiamo arrivando e tutti stanno scappando via".]

Ma, come la CNN trasmetteva alle 9:54:

...just moments ago. They started slowly evacuating the White House about 30 minutes ago, and then in the last 5 minutes people have come running out of the White House and the Old Executive Office Building, the building which is the office building right directly across from the White House.
[qualche momento fa. Hanno cominciato lentamente ad evacuare la Casa Bianca circa 30 minuti fa, e poi negli ultimi 5 minuti la gente ha cominciato a correre fuori dalla Casa Bianca e dall'Old Executive Office Building, l'edificio di uffici subito di fronte alla Casa Bianca (sulla West Executive Drive N.d.T.)]

Pare proprio quindi che Mineta sia arrivato alla Casa Bianca nel momento in cui la gente "si riversava" fuori dall'Old Executive Building, cioè quando la CNN afferma che i lavori di evacuazione hanno cominciato ad interessare anche gli edifici a fianco alla Casa Bianca.

Cioè 5 minuti prima delle 9:54. Fa le 9:49. Diciamo pure che il cronista ha sottovalutato. 9:45.

Citazione:
A me pare che Rob Balsamo e soci abbian spiegato per bene la faccenda e sia emerso quanto chi ha scritto l'articolo non c'avesse capito proprio nulla..


Per fortuna non conta ciò che pare a te. Per questo ho indicato il link (e sono stato gentile, dato che è effettivamente stato un momento difficile).

Citazione:
Cmq Sir Edward, fai click sul link che ho messo e scoprirai l'arcano sulla discrepanza di traiettorie..

Bello. Anche secondo PFT ci sono tre testimoni che si sono visti passare l'aereo sull atesta in posizioni compatibili con quelle "ufficiali".
Ma se la scatola nera dice diverso... mi stai dicendo che c'erano due aerei?
Sì, almeno stando alle tue dichiarazioni. Due aerei che hanno fatto "esattamente" la stessa traiettoria (ma disassata), uno dei quali ha sorvolato il Pentagono.

E nessuno l'ha visto sorvolare a bassissia quota il Pentagono (questo è uno dei punti principali contro la teoria del sorvolo proposta da PFT).
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